Sunday, January 22, 2012

Interdisciplinarity

David Graeber's Debt is a work in a kind of history of ideas; an attempt to draw out, through its involvement in and reshaping of various human practices, the part that debt and the network of ideas it sits at the centre of have played in constructing contemporary society. In order to do this well, as well as Graeber's undoubtedly extensive and often highly illuminating knowledge of the practices of debt, you would need to be a competent reader of the texts used and to have some skill in conceptual analysis. Otherwise, you will make mistakes about the content of changes in practices and when and where they occurred. Graeber illustrates this perfectly.

For example, in Graeber's discussion of how, through slavery, debt shaped ideas of freedom, he relies on a contrast he deploys elsewhere between possessing an object and being embedded in a network of human relations. Of course, though, possessing an object is being embedded in a network of human relations, relations of permissions and prohibitions of the various uses of the object by all the people who might use it, permissions and prohibitions which can be more and less rich. Equally, we can understand being embedded in a network of human relations as structuring and so specifying the set of powers you possess in much the same way as Graeber sees a focus on the things you own and so hold powers over does. Graeber is in effect contrasting something with itself. Given the way the contrast structures much of what he says - the switch from what he calls "human" to "market" economies is discussed in these terms, for example - his failure to see this is pretty damaging to his project as a whole.

Relatedly, he is pretty lazy about interpreting various figures in the history of political thought. In the course of his discussion of freedom, he refers to the "strange fantasies" of "Hobbes, Locke and Smith, about the origins of society in some collection of thirty- or forty-year old males who seem to have sprung from the earth fully formed [and] then have to decide whether to kill each other or begin to swap beaver pelts". While I've not read any Smith, I find it hard to understand how someone who had read Hobbes and Locke could think they shared a philosophical anthropology, and particularly how they shared this kind of highly individualized one. Locke's explanation and justification of the the formation of the state in The Second Treatise (pdf) focuses on the need for adjudication of disputes between families (see Chapter 7, particularly sections 87 and 88). What Locke says may or may not be right, but given its focus on families, which for Locke included not just blood relations but servants and slaves, and on the adjudication of disputes, which could of course only occur in the context of sustained relations that it is worth trying to preserve, it could hardly be sensibly characterised as about 'some collection of thirty- or forty-year old males sprung from the earth fully formed'.

This really is a pity, since what Graeber says about, for example, the myth of the origin of money in barter is excellent, both in itself and as a critique of economics as it is practised. If that expertise could have been married to a decent background in the history of political and presumably economic thought as well as a coherent conceptual framework, the book perhaps would have been really good. It's not as if Graeber is alone in thinking that the problem with market relations being that they're conducted altogether outside of morality, in a realm of power. It's more that it's strange that an anthropologist, supposedly trained to tease out the content and rationale of the various structuring links which inevitably make up any set of human relations, would fall victim to that error.

6 comments:

Chris Bertram said...

Some off the cuff responses:

1. Graeber remarks somewhere that from a Hindu or Buddhist perspective, Islam, Christianity and Judaism look pretty much the same thing. Maybe ditto Hobbes, Locke and Smith from a certain perspective also. Naturally, the historian of western political thought is inclined to accentuate the differences, as you are.

2. On the market as a morally-free zone, two points ...

(a) it is an awfully thin conception of morality compared to other social systems. Clearly the Carol Gilligan "traffic rules for egoists" jibe is misguides re say Rawls, but as a description of neoliberalism and libertarianism it isn't far wrong.

(b) Graeber has the interesting idea that all forms of society incorporate all three distributive principles (exchange, hierarchy, communism). That's quite a useful take on GAC's later work I think (at least potentially). So even market societies incorporate these other social dimensions.

3. On the relation to things / social relations distinction. Well yes as an external description of how thing are you are right. But surely the ethnographic/Graeber point is about how people conceive of these relations also, subjectively in different societies. Shades of Marx on commodity fetishism here.


[Have to write on Graeber myself, so just trying to get straight on how to think about your worries]

Rob Jubb said...

Just a quick (and so mostly defensive: there's more to be said than what I say here) response. On 1, well, maybe they do, but that's not really the point. The point is you'd expect any perspective you're going to rely on to in some sense track true claims about what it's a perspective on, and it's *manifestly* false that Locke thinks about the structure of social interactions in terms of atomised individualism. On 2, sure, it's thin, but that's not what Graeber says (in, I think, contradiction to other things he says) and is anyway what I find so attractive about it (and don't even get me started on how he understands communism). On 3, again, yeah, but that's not what he says. I should make it clear again that I really like the idea and I think the stuff where he's talking about the origin of money is great. It's just the rest of the scholarship is shoddy, really shoddy.

Chris Brooke said...

Out of curiosity, Chris, if someone published a popular book that gave a significant place to Rawls in its architecture, but interpreted him largely through the lens of "traffic rules for egoists" and presented him as a fairly uncritical (and highly influential) apologist for globalised neoliberalism, how sympathetic do you think you would be to the defence that, from the point of view of, say, Hinduism or Buddhism, he looks just like Robert Nozick?

Rob Jubb said...

Or better, something on Rousseau, uncritically repeating bad, even malicious, readings of him based around the forced to be free passage, making those central to an account of the evolution of socialist thought in general? Graeber is worse than Popper on Plato, and that's awful (and I'm quite happy saying that even though I find Plato bizarre).

Chris Bertram said...

Well let's see.

Liberal Apologist for Capitalist Inequality: A Popular Guide, by ANother ....

Rawls's rational-actor, law-as-incentive model of social action; link to Hayek's Mirage .... Chain connection and trickle-down ... Rawls's theory of justice among nations (the econ part) as a globalized version of Wilt Chamberlain ....

How am I doing so far? I think you could write a pretty respectable text actually though it would wind up some people no end ....

Hillel Steiner says somewhere that Locke and Kant have very similar theories of territorial justice ... cue apoplexy.

And Rousseau. Well no-one is going to tell me that it is impossible to write an important and interesting book in political philosophy that gets R totally wrong and yet is worth reading. Cos there's quite a few of those, starting with old Herr Hegel.

Rob Jubb said...

Chris,

Notice that none of those things are actually what Chris or I were proposing, or like 'Debt'. 'Debt' isn't a book about Locke or Hobbes, it's a book about how we think and have thought about debt. As I said in the original post, in order to do that well, you need a) to be able to interpret texts well and b) have a useful conceptual framework. If you can't meet those conditions, then you will a) misinterpret the practices you're interested in and b) arrange your material in a confused way. The stuff on Locke shows Graeber can't do a), and the stuff on the difference between powers and relations shows he doesn't have b). I don't see how any of your examples, which are not pieces of intellectual history, is supposed to show that that's not the case. Of course one can make interesting mistakes about other people's views when the project is to argue for your own view directly. That's not Graeber's project though; he wants to argue for his view without bothering to make it clear by making conceptually confused and obviously false claims about those of others. Let's not pretend it's After Virtue.